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Jo Johnson: I have no regrets over English sector marketisation

The former universities minister says the sector鈥檚 financial crisis will worsen unless ministers get on with legislating for annual fee rises. But 10 years on from introducing the 糖心Vlog and Research Act, he tells Jack Grove that it is right to put the student interest front and centre in a high-fees era

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鈥淲e shouldn鈥檛 confuse a failure to maintain a sustainable funding settlement for universities with a failure of the principle that students should have choice and that we need a system in which students can go where they want to receive the higher education that best meets their needs.鈥�

That is the view of Jo Johnson, the former Conservative universities minister who, in 2017, oversaw the passage of England鈥檚 糖心Vlog and Research Act (Hera), described at the time as 鈥渢he most significant sector legislation in 25 years鈥� and whose effect on the sector has been enormous 鈥� and highly contested.

Johnson was minister for universities, science, research and innovation from May 2015 to January 2018 under Conservative prime ministers David Cameron and Theresa May. He reprised the role for just three months in 2019, after his brother Boris ousted Theresa May as prime minister amid the post-Brexit political chaos, before resigning as an MP, citing 鈥渦nresolvable tension鈥� between 鈥渇amily loyalty and the national interest鈥�.

The decision, announced in 2013, to abolish number controls at English universities was made on the watch of Johnson鈥檚 predecessor but one, David Willetts, the other major reforming minister of recent decades, who oversaw the tripling of tuition fees to 拢9,000 in 2012. But Johnson was head of Downing Street鈥檚 policy unit at the time, and he was minister when the abolition came into effect for the 2015-16 academic year.

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Moreover, the absence of number controls was central to the market ethos that Johnson sought to introduce into the sector, which underwrote the Hera鈥檚 replacement of the 糖心Vlog Funding Council for England with a market-style regulator, the Office for Students.

Speaking to 糖心Vlog ahead of the forthcoming 10th聽anniversary of the Hera 鈥� which also led to the creation of UK Research and Innovation (UKRI) to coordinate the country鈥檚 nine research councils 鈥� Johnson accepted many institutions are 鈥渦ndoubtedly under serious financial pressure鈥�, amid a wave of redundancies, expectations that half of the sector will be in deficit this year and fears that some institutions may be teetering on the brink of insolvency. But he rejected accusations that the lifting of student number controls was to blame and 鈥渨as therefore a mistake鈥�.

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鈥淲e need to be clear about what鈥檚 causing the instability,鈥� said Johnson, who is now a Conservative peer. 鈥淸It] has much more to do with the prolonged, real-terms erosion of the domestic unit of resource for undergraduate teaching.鈥�

Domestic undergraduate fees rose only once between 2012 and 2024, when the 拢9,000 tuition fee cap increased to 拢9,250 on Johnson鈥檚 watch in 2017. Recent analyses found that this meant that the real-terms value of the fee fell by a third since 2012 and is well below the 拢12,000 average cost of providing a degree to a domestic student.

Hence, the 鈥渇irst priority鈥� of current skills minister Jacqui Smith, whose remit includes higher education, 鈥渉as to be fixing the funding problem鈥�.

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More prestigious universities have filled the financial gap by hoovering up students who would previously have gone to lower-tariff institutions, creating capacity problems for themselves and plunging the rest of the sector into ever greater reliance on international students. But their numbers are now declining聽owing to greater immigration restrictions, underlining the need for a 鈥渟ustainable鈥� funding model for English students that does 鈥渘ot require institutions to be dependent on international students鈥�, said Johnson. 鈥淭hat puts the funding for the system on a precarious and uncertain basis, and we鈥檝e all seen the price which it pays when this is the case.鈥�

In his view, the key to solving the problem is ensuring that tuition fees rise annually in line with inflation.

After coming to power in 2024, Labour raised tuition fees with inflation to 拢9,535 in 2025-26 and confirmed last November that further inflationary rises in the following two years will see fees rise above the politically totemic 拢10,000 figure by 2027-28. That followed a pledge in the Skills White Paper, published the previous month to enshrine annual inflationary rises in law.

Yet new prime minister Andy Burnham, who is focused on cost-of-living issues, has yet to publicly endorse that pledge. And while, in July, education minister Josh MacAlister said the government will legislate for the annual rise , MPs have yet to discuss the measure. And Johnson worries that parliamentary time may run out before the next general election, due around May 2029.

鈥淚t was disappointing that [the legislation] wasn鈥檛 in the most recent King鈥檚 Speech [in May], particularly as we head towards the latter half of this Parliament when such measures become harder to achieve [because MPs are afraid to vote for bills unpopular with the electorate],鈥� said Johnson, who has previously suggested fees might rise to 拢12,000 to cover the full cost of a degree.

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鈥淭he model for domestic undergraduate provision needs to be sustainable on its own terms, and that鈥檚 why it鈥檚 really important that indexation [of fees to inflation] is automatic, so the government doesn鈥檛 have to make the difficult political decision every year or drive mechanisms through Parliament to achieve it every year.鈥�

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That difficulty is very real, Johnson acknowledged. He achieved his one fee rise in 2017 thanks only to the introduction of the Teaching Excellence Framework (TEF), allowing the government to sweeten the pill with the promise of rising teaching standards. The idea at the time was that year-on-year increases would be linked to strong performance in the TEF. However, 鈥淗istorians will remember [the TEF] was not used to increase fees in subsequent years because Theresa May called a general election in which she became dependent on the Democratic Unionist Party,鈥� he said, referencing the 鈥渃onfidence and supply agreement鈥� that, while falling short of a full coalition, required May to keep DUP MPs from Northern Ireland on side in order to pass legislation. And they 鈥渨eren鈥檛 interested in any form of tuition fee increases whatsoever, and the mechanism sort of became obsolete鈥�.

The OfS has now proposed to link with eligibility for tuition fee uplifts, access to public teaching funding such as the strategic priorities grant and eligibility to apply for or extend degree-awarding powers. Meanwhile, expansion in student numbers at institutions rated bronze in the TEF, and enrolment would be cut by 10 per cent at universities rated 鈥渞equires improvement鈥�.

Johnson said he was glad that the TEF is now 鈥減laying the role that I always hoped that it might鈥�.

But even if automatic tuition fee rises for well-rated institutions are enshrined in legislation, a restructuring of the UK鈥檚 landscape is 鈥渋nevitable鈥� given the current funding situation, Johnson believes.

England is 鈥渁n outlier in terms of the number of institutions per capita, and we鈥檙e in a world where there鈥檚 a real return on scale鈥�, he said. Recent consolidations such as the mergers between the universities of Kent and Greenwich, King鈥檚 College London and Cranfield University, and City and St George鈥檚, University of London 鈥減oint the way that is, I think, going to be part of the sector鈥檚 future over coming years鈥�, he added. 鈥淢ergers and strategic combinations of that sort are going to be really important, so we do need to have an enabling environment for that.鈥�

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Johnson always foresaw a certain level of institutional churn resulting from the Hera, and many sector figures were spooked from the start of his for the universities that lose out from increased competition. But Johnson remains adamant that the 鈥渇undamental organising principle for the sector of student choice and the student interest remains the right one鈥�, and he dismissed calls for the restoration of number controls.

鈥淲e need to be clear about what the alternative [is to] a system organised around students freely exercising their own decisions about where to go,鈥� he argued. 鈥淚t isn鈥檛 some benign academic commonwealth 鈥� it鈥檚 command and control quotas and allocation of places to institutions by Whitehall, with governments effectively deciding what should be taught where and in what quantities.鈥�

And that, he added, would 鈥渘ot mean thriving humanities and social sciences departments 鈥� if that鈥檚 the criticism [of the market system]. It would mean quite severe retrenchment in areas out of favour in Whitehall at any one time, and a focus on ministerially favoured programmes du jour. I don鈥檛 think that鈥檚 a world which is better.鈥�

Hefce was championed by many for its role as a 鈥溾�� between ministers and the sector, which occasionally lent a helping hand to struggling institutions. The OfS鈥� relationship with the sector, on the other hand, has been rocky, with vice-chancellors critical of what was commonly seen as an overly adversarial relationship. A recent reset of the regulator鈥檚 approach was soured by a misguided attempt to fine the University of Sussex for alleged free-speech breaches. The university successfully overturned the 拢585,000 fine in the courts earlier this year as a judge ruled that the OfS鈥� investigation of Sussex had been characterised by 鈥渂ias鈥� and 鈥渁 closed mind鈥�.

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Yet, again, Johnson was adamant that the principle behind the OfS鈥� establishment had been the right one. It was 鈥渁n attempt to create a regulatory system that was appropriate for a world in which we had a very much greater number of students entering the higher education system 鈥� and doing so while they were bearing the predominant cost of their own higher education through income-contingent loans鈥�, he explained.

鈥淭he central idea of Hera was that we needed a system that reflected that students were, by and large, funding their own university experience,鈥� he said. 鈥淚t put the student interest and accountability for quality and outcomes at the very heart of it. And that still seems right to me.鈥�

In that sense, he is dismissive of the complaint voiced by many academics that 鈥渟tudent consumerism鈥� has undermined standards by increasing students鈥� sense of entitlement and undermined their work ethic while making universities excessively sensitive to the effects of student opinion on recruitment (not least via the TEF, which draws on the National Student Survey).

鈥淭he old regulatory model had many strengths, but it was primarily a funding council model in which Hefce doled out funding to providers,鈥� he said. 鈥淚t didn鈥檛 have as its central focus the idea of the student interests and value for money for the entities funding higher education: namely the students themselves and the taxpayers underpinning the loan book.鈥�

National protest organised by the NUS and UCU to demand free, quality further and higher education, 19 November 2016.
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The flip side to market exit, of course, is market entry, and another aspect of the Hera was to make it easier for startup 鈥�challenger institutions鈥� to gain access to student loans, degree-awarding powers and full university status. Further changes in 2019 built on the act, with the OfS abolishing the need for , a threshold that stood at 4,000 until 2012.

These changes were designed to encourage more high-quality entrants that could encourage innovation by taking on larger universities wedded to the full-time, three-year undergraduate degree. Previously, this had proved prohibitively difficult, even for the much-heralded New College of the Humanities, established in 2010 in London鈥檚 famous Bloomsbury district as a rival to Oxbridge but obliged to have its degrees validated by Southampton Solent University, and which was eventually bought as a London branch campus by Northeastern University in 2018.

Even with the Hera鈥檚 changes, Johnson accepts it was always likely to be difficult for new entrants to seriously challenge the dominant model of higher education, embedded internationally for centuries. Nonetheless there have been some high-quality new entrants into the system in recent years, he insisted.

鈥淚鈥檓 proud to have helped that happen,鈥� he said. 鈥淭he system is better for the existence of the likes of the Dyson Institute for Engineering and Technology, which鈥s an extraordinary institution.鈥� Johnson is on the council of the degree-awarding institution established in 2017 at the Dyson technology campus in Wiltshire.

鈥淚t鈥檚 attracting students who could go anywhere in the world,鈥� he said. 鈥淭hey could go to Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial but many choose to go to Dyson because it鈥檚 offering something distinctive, which is workplace-integrated learning of an exceptionally high standard,鈥� he said.

He also commended the聽New Model Institute for Technology and Engineering (NMITE), founded in 2018 in Hereford, for its 鈥渋nnovative engineering provision鈥�.

鈥淭hey are, however, very small and haven鈥檛 had the impact on the system as a whole which I鈥檇 hoped,鈥� he admitted. 鈥淲hat I underestimated was the need to help the existing providers be more innovative.鈥�

Hence, 鈥淚f I had my time again, I would spend more effort on [facilitating] things like shorter courses, two-year degrees, more modular provision, and more credit transfer 鈥� making sure that institutions didn鈥檛 just sort of pay lip service to it as a possibility, but actually allowed it to happen,鈥� Johnson said.

In that regard, he commended the lifelong learning entitlement (LLE), which will allow people to borrow up to four years鈥� worth of student loan funding over the course of their working lives for courses beginning from January. But he is worried that it, too, might fail to have the transformational impact on the sector that its authors intended, amid lukewarm interest from many universities in establishing eligible courses.

鈥淩eforms don鈥檛 just, you know, happen by themselves: you need government to go in and really deliver them, make sure that institutions are responding to them. Otherwise the LLE risks being something of a disappointment,鈥� he said. 鈥淚t will not deliver the skills revolution that ministers once hoped it might unless they ensure that universities really pick it up and run with it.鈥�

Johnson鈥檚 return as higher education minister in 2019 may have been brief, but it was also consequential, leading to the restoration of the two-year post-study work visa that Theresa May had scrapped, a move that is credited with catalysing a post-pandemic resurgence in international enrolments. However, the Labour government announced a year ago that from January, new applicants will only be able to stay for 18 months. On top of the ban on most international students bringing dependants brought in at the tail end of the Conservative era, that policy shift, many believe, explains the sharp fall in international applications this summer. Higher 糖心Vlog Office refusal rates for Nigeria, Pakistan and India over the summer is also causing major financial worries for institutions.

Johnson laments how legal immigration routes, which are 鈥渋mportant and beneficial to the country鈥� have been 鈥渃ontaminated in the public debate by concern around illegal migration and the small boats鈥�.

Labour won concessions from the government as ministers raced against time to push through the bill in the pre-election 鈥渨ash-up鈥� for outstanding bills, prior to Parliament being dissolved on 3 May ahead of the general election on 8 June. But Johnson regrets that Theresa May held out against a House of Lords amendment to remove students from targets to reduce net migration.

鈥淲e shouldn鈥檛 regard them as part of the immigration problem, which governments need to fix, as it were,鈥� he said. 鈥淚鈥檝e always argued that [they] should be regarded more as sort of tourists or temporary visitors who shouldn鈥檛 count towards any net immigration targets that the government might be consciously or unconsciously working towards.鈥�

Quite apart from their tuition fees, 鈥渋nternational students bring huge benefits to our system鈥�, he said. 鈥淭hey provide a real pipeline into our research base, which is fundamental to Britain being a major science player on the world stage.鈥�

In that sense, any benefits to the research system that will accrue from UKRI鈥檚 more centralised oversight of the research councils, emphasised by chief executive Ian Chapman, could be undermined if the flow of international talent is stifled, Johnson fears.

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鈥淲e鈥檙e not going to remain [a major player] unless we have students coming in, doing undergrad, then postgrad, then doctorates and then postdoctoral work鈥t鈥檚 really important that everybody remembers that.鈥�

jack.grove@timeshighereducation.com

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Reader's comments (9)

This chap is misguided. It seems that every disastrous outcome is positive, and so marketisation has been a success. Who will be held to account for the predictable outcome that almost half the sector is now in deficit and the reputation of UK universities at home and abroad has collapsed amongst the public, students, and academics?
"Students can go wherever they want ( the same way as a pauper can go to any luxury hotel they want ) and marketisation has been a great success ( says the man who has already established a high-paying career and never needs to study another module or sit another exam again ) ". Now maybe we ask some people actually in the HE sector..... ?
So the pseudo-market in England has a range of problems, but I've seen nobody come up with the way out? There is not going to be increased public funding so that is a non-starter. I've seen calls for the return of student caps, which I have no particular issue with, but caps with loans is basically conscription.
One of the many flaws in JJ's and Willetts scheme, was the Baldrick "CunningPlan" of attempting to hoodwink the Treasury into not regarding student loans as spending, on the flawed (one might say utterly foolish) reasoning that the money would eventually be repaid and was thus not a cost to the taxpayer. However, as was realised quite quickly, the cost of the loans was de facto current public expenditure in that the state paid the cost upfront. This combined with the c. 40% of loans that were never going to be repaid (including the 拢360 million advanced and outstanding to EU students and impossible to be recouped) meant that any automatic increases due to inflation in an uncapped system has dire consequences for controlling spending in these areas. Now that's before anyone even gets started on the burden of student debt, frozen repayment thresholds and increasing interest rates, increased income being used to fund excessive senior pay awards etc etc. We are now in the Catch 22 of not being able to dispense with a substantial loan elenent and high fees as this would necessitate some re-imbursement of those paying off their loans, so the ony real option is to reduce the numbers of gradate places through capping, or some very rigourous quality control and pay control.
The only solution is to remove all fee caps. Support deserving students with grants, scholarships and keep the provision for loans (not funded by the tax payer). You cannot call HE a market if you fail lesson 101 of economics, i.e. that proper functioning markets must enable price discovery. We all know it is a market for all intents and purposes -VC salaries, Competition for students etc. Why then disrupt the price discovery process by mandating fees? Makes no sense.
Every single Johnson should have been keo away from politics. Marketization has led us to where we are today, up sh*t creek without any paddles, trying to save money by sacking staff
Has there ever been a successful Tory marketisation? What a complete an utter mess they have made of 糖心Vlog in England. As for Johnson, I don't know what is worse, his racist campaign in London or this.
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Well yes, in the 70s the state did far too much and badly. We forget about the successful ones like Amersham international and British Telecom. British Gas also. The probem was with those areas that were not really successful concerns, such as Water and Steel and the Thatcher and Major govts ideological commitment that marletisatiob was always the best solution. The rail privatization was also botched of course, but do remember how usefless British Rail was.
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In this country we seem to have a fundamental inability to admit we are wrong. When Andy Burnham suggests water privatisation was wrong he's accused of wanting to take Britain back to the 1970s, even though we all know it was wrong. And when the disasterous higher education policies become manifest, it is even worse as neither those responsible nor those in power seem to want to say, it was all a mistake, let's rewind. Sometimes it is a good idea to return to a previous situation.

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