Source: CBI
Greg Clark has warned that a Labour 拢6,000 fee policy would be a 鈥渉uge step backwards鈥 and leave a 鈥渇iscal black hole鈥.
But the universities and science minister again refused to support proposals to remove overseas students from the net migration target when he spoke at a fringe meeting at the Conservative Party Conference in Birmingham on 30 September.
Mr Clark, who combines his brief with a continued role in the Cabinet Office as minister for cities, did not make a speech in the main hall at conference and his sole higher education fringe appearance saw him arrive late and leave early.
That brought criticism from Toni Pearce, the National Union of Students president who was also on the fringe panel.
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Mr Clark told the meeting, hosted by Million+ and the NUS, that there was a 鈥渃urious absence of any real discussion of higher education and universities at the Labour Party Conference, which I think is extraordinary this far before an election鈥.
Referring to Labour鈥檚 consideration of a policy to lower fees to 拢6,000, he said that 鈥渢his playing around with the idea of reversing some of the reforms 鈥 reforms that followed a commission appointed by the previous government, which attracted cross-party support 鈥 I think that has shades of the French government [of Fran莽ois Hollande] repealing and playing around with important fundamental reforms, opening up a huge fiscal black hole鈥.
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Mr Clark argued that a Labour 拢6,000 policy would create 鈥渁 situation which no university wants where you鈥檇 have to go cap in hand to the Treasury every year just to maintain the status quo in funding. It鈥檚 a huge step backwards.鈥
Michael Gunn, the Staffordshire University vice-chancellor and Million+ chair, said the 鈥渂ig questions鈥 the Conservatives 鈥渘eeded to answer鈥 ahead of the election included 鈥渨ill a Conservative government raise fees, and if so by how much?鈥.
He also argued that on international students and the net migrant target, the Conservatives should at least pledge to hold a review and look at the case for change after the election.
Mr Clark said that classing overseas students as immigrants was 鈥渁n internationally agreed definition鈥.
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He added: 鈥淎s long as you have the guarantee 鈥 and I give it again 鈥 that there will be no cap on overseas students, then the inclusion in or out of the official figures鈥hat is not the policy that bites. The policy that bites is: is there a cap on the number of people coming from overseas to UK universities? And there isn鈥檛.鈥
On fees, Mr Clark said that his predecessor, David Willetts, thought 拢9,000 fees 鈥渞eflect the costs鈥 of teaching. 鈥淚鈥檓 not persuaded, and neither was he鈥hat the fee cap that鈥檚 there is not adequate to meet the needs of the teaching budget,鈥 added Mr Clark.
Ms Pearce tweeted after the meeting that 鈥渨e got 20 minutes鈥 of the minister talking on higher education at the conference, 鈥渨here he complained that [Labour] didn鈥檛 speak about HE enough and said everything鈥檚 fine!鈥
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